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TLC Points Calculator: Persistent Violator Program

Add TLC and DMV points by conviction date to see your 15-month total under TLC's Persistent Violator Program, when each drops off, and course credits.

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  1. How the calculator works
  2. Where the points come from
  3. Worked example
  4. What the calculator can't tell you
  5. FAQ
  6. Sources

In short: TLC suspends a driver's license for up to 30 days when TLC points and DMV points together reach 6 to 9 within 15 months, and revokes it at 10 or more. Add each conviction with its date and point value; the calculator totals the ones inside the 15-month window, shows where you sit on the scale, and tells you when the oldest points stop counting.

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TLC points calculator (Persistent Violator Program)

Add the points on your record with their conviction dates to see your total for the last 15 months.

This tool needs JavaScript. The rules it uses are listed under “How this works” below.

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The 15 months before this date are counted.

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Below the Persistent Violator suspension threshold on these numbers. New convictions add up fast — fighting a ticket can keep points off your record.

How this works

  • TLC rule §80-27(a)(1): 6 to 9 TLC points, DMV points or both combined within 15 months, counted from the date of conviction, means a TLC license suspension of up to 30 days; 10 or more means revocation.
  • If several violations came from one incident, TLC counts only the one with the highest points (§80-27(a)(2)). Enter just that one.
  • A Point Reduction Course takes off 3 TLC points (once every five years); a DMV-approved Defensive Driving Course takes off 3 DMV points (once every 18 months). To avoid a suspension the course must be finished before the Persistent Violator summons is decided (§80-27(a)(5)).
  • This is arithmetic on what you enter. Your official record (TLC and your DMV abstract) is what counts, and TLC can impose other penalties too.

How the calculator works

The rule behind it is TLC rule §80-27, the Persistent Violator Program:

  • Suspension: a driver who "within a 15-month period accumulated a total of at least six but fewer than ten TLC Points or DMV Points or both combined, counting from the date of conviction" faces a suspension of up to 30 days.
  • Revocation: 10 or more points in 15 months means TLC revokes the license.
  • One incident, one violation: if you were found guilty of several violations from a single incident, TLC counts only the one with the highest points (§80-27(a)(2)). So enter just that one.
  • Course credit: TLC deducts 3 TLC points for a Point Reduction Course or 3 DMV points for a Defensive Driving Course, but not more than once every five years (TLC points) or 18 months (DMV points). The course must be finished before the Persistent Violator summons is decided to keep you from being suspended (§80-27(a)(5)).

The tool counts any entry whose conviction date falls after the start of the window and on or before the "window ending" date (today, unless you change it). Each entry shows the date it stops counting: 15 months after the conviction.

Where the points come from

TLC points are listed in each rule's penalty section. For example, the hazardous moving violations in §80-13(a)(3) carry their own points: 3 for a traffic signal (red light) violation or a stop sign, 3 to 8 for speeding depending on how far over the limit. A non-hazardous moving violation under §80-13(a)(2) carries no point the first time, then 1 point from the second within 15 months. Using a phone while driving under §80-14(g)(1) is 3 points (4 for a third offense in 15 months). If our library has verified a rule's points as a single number, you can pick it from the "Or pick a TLC rule" list.

DMV points are on your New York driving abstract from the DMV. Note a quiet trap: DMV counts its own totals by the date of the violation, but TLC's program counts by the date of conviction. Enter conviction dates here.

Worked example

Checking on October 12, 2026, a driver enters:

Example: three convictions, 15-month window Jul 12, 2025 – Oct 12, 2026

  1. Sep 10, 2025

    Red light, §80-13(a)(3)(vii): 3 TLC points

    Counts until Dec 10, 2026.

  2. Feb 3, 2026

    Second non-hazardous moving violation, §80-13(a)(2): 1 TLC point

    Counts until May 3, 2027.

  3. Jun 20, 2026

    Watch out: DMV conviction: 2 DMV points

    Counts until Sep 20, 2027.

  4. Oct 12, 2026

    Important: Total: 6 points — suspension range

    4 TLC + 2 DMV. A Point Reduction Course finished before the Persistent Violator summons is decided would take off 3 TLC points, bringing the total to 3.

The same driver checking again on December 11, 2026 would see the red-light points fall out of the window and the total drop to 3. Timing matters: the "Next points drop off" line tells you that date.

What the calculator can't tell you

It is arithmetic on what you type. It does not read your official TLC record or DMV abstract, and TLC can impose penalties that are more severe than, or in addition to, those in §80-27 (§80-27(a)(3)). The rule also gives an affirmative defense where the act behind a violation was beyond the driver's control (§80-27(a)(6)) — a question for your representative, not a calculator.

For the full program, read our guide to Persistent Violator Program points and the rule page for §80-27(a)(1)(i). How DMV points feed into your TLC license is covered in TLC license and DMV points, and course options in the TLC defensive driving course. Fighting a pointed ticket is the other way to keep the total down — the fight-or-pay tool helps you weigh it.

Frequently asked questions

How many points get a TLC license suspended?

Under TLC rule §80-27(a)(1), at least 6 but fewer than 10 TLC points, DMV points or both combined within 15 months, counted from the date of conviction, means a suspension of up to 30 days. 10 or more means revocation.

Does TLC count DMV points?

Yes. The Persistent Violator Program adds TLC points and DMV points together. That's why the calculator lets you enter both kinds.

Why does the calculator ask for conviction dates, not violation dates?

TLC's rule counts points 'from the date of conviction'. New York DMV counts its own point total from the date of the violation, so the same ticket can sit in a slightly different window for TLC than for DMV.

Can a course take points off?

TLC deducts 3 TLC points for a Point Reduction Course (once every five years) or 3 DMV points for a Defensive Driving Course (once every 18 months). To avoid a suspension, the course must be completed before the Persistent Violator summons is decided.

Are my entries saved?

Only in your own browser on this device, so you can come back to them. Nothing is sent to TLC Help.

Sources

Last reviewed against the official sources on .

  1. TLC Rule Book, Chapter 80 (updated June 6, 2025), §80-27 Persistent Violator Program and §80-13 point table nyc.gov
  2. NYS DMV: The New York State driver point system dmv.ny.gov
  3. NYS DMV: Point and Insurance Reduction Program dmv.ny.gov

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